pelosi actually cheer how many people are on food stamp and heard her talk about the multiplier effect and commercials on the radio, hey, go out and get food stamps, is that really the country you want us to be? >> well, look the people who are qualified for food stamps ought to get them instead of going hungry. a program that bob dole and others put together at the beginning. the reality yes we don't want people on food stamps we want people with jobs and working. no question about na. charles: to be fair, mark-- >> the reality we've been in a very deep resection and working out of their recession and while we're working out of this recession, there are not enough jobs. charles: do you fear, one of my greatest fears, it's becoming more seductive to go ahead and drop out the jobs market and give up, because the dole of so much easier. when you start to weigh the pros and cons, that says i'll get my rent paid, and health care paid, a free cell phone, i'll get food, why would i work? why anyone making less than $50,000 a year, in this country, why would they work if they get all of these